Tuesday, 30 April 2019


Our group still continues to meet at the Into Newcastle Cafe which is not only a pleasant venue but the hot drinks and meals are very reasonably priced. Unfortunately I am a little bit behind with the blog as I can not attend the meetings at the moment due to treatment which I am having. The group still continues with discussions on local history with many projects being talked about. One of the things that we mention in the past was recording some of recollections of recent local history and I encourage you to submit your impressions and memories for all of our benefit.. To continue on our little journey here  are some impressions and memories about the Co-op.








In Wallsend Reflections by Jean and Ken Smith they describe the Wallsend Industrial Co-op as one of the towns largest businesses. Originally (1862) converted from two rooms into a shop in Carville Road.  It had a large window and a door big enough to allow a cask of sugar to be rolled in. It continued to expand both sides of Carville road until it met Frank Street and Warwick Street. On Warwick street there was an arch that led to the stables; remembered by Joan Smart who recalls seeing horse and carts going in and out. She also remembers that you could buy almost anything there, it had quite a few departments, hardware, confectionery, a fruit shop, a dairy, a Taylor, dressmaking, millinery and a cobblers. On the rear end of Warwick Street it had its own slaughterhouse. Marion Coulson remembers after the second world war a furniture and Jewellers was added. She also recalls  her mother saying 'Don't forget to bring my cheque back' , meaning the dividend record which took in  account of your purchases and could be used to redeem a quarterly share of the Society's profits.

 An interesting article on English co-operative society movement to improve education can be found here

Wallsend's Co-operative School
Event date(s)
1 November 1871 to 6 August 1875

From <http://radicaltyneside.org/events/wallsends-co-operative-school>


I remember the Co-op at the Stamfordham road junction  with Springfield road and Silver Lonnen. The building which is still there was an odd shaped octagonal  like structure of two floors. The ground floor  reflected the octagonal structure by enabling all of the various vendors, Butchers, bakers, grocers, fish mongers etc to be in presented in a semicircle fashion. I seem to remember sawdust being on the floor. Everyone had their own unique dividend number and book. Many people now can even remember their number.




Ian remembers the Co-op:

From a personal view, I remember that as a youngster we used to buy stuff from the Co-op. As a result, I have a memory of our Co-op divi number being 247777 which was the number you quoted whenever you bought things from the Co-op.  I also remember going upstairs in  the Co-op in Newgate Street, to have your Divi book updated. Because we had our milk delivered by the Co-op dairies you used to buy plastic milk tokens from the coop that you placed in a metal container
that was then attached to your empty milk bottles.

Another piece of social history that you do not see nowadays, is the use of shop produced currency.
Specifically, I can remember that there was a chain of shops in the North East that included such shops as Parrish's in Byker, Joplings of Sunderland and Shepherds of Gateshead. They produced their own currency that you could use in their stores.

I suspect it was an early implementation of Hire Purchase as you could get cheques and coins from the store and I was aware that some people would sell them at discounted prices to convert them back into cash.

Iris also remembers her local Co-op:

Haven’t many memories of it other than it being perhaps a bit bigger than ordinary shops a precursor to supermarkets perhaps. Ours was in Sandyford and died a bit when the Hadrian came to Sandyford. Now there’s an old shop name eh?
Mam didn’t send me messages because even before the brain damage my memory was  crossed with a colander anyway.  She’d send me up the very steep hill from Jesmond Vale, down by the Blue Bell (not so steep in a car, but try walking it) to buy sugar and I’d come back with lucknow sauce, or a loaf of bread freshly baked and with corner crusts nibbled off before I got home. (another clip along the ear).

She sent me more after she forgot my baby brother and left him in the spuds.  Remember when they were in a wooden sloped container, or at least the sides were cut that way and heaped with veg. The spuds in this case and my 0bviously tired mam had laid my very small baby brother in amongst them to pay for her groceries and pack her bag which of course, we all had to queue for and then gone home leaving by very tiny baby in the spuds. When she realised a good few minutes after getting home and dashed back up the very steep bank (particularly when you had a bad hip as mam had and walked with a limp) she was greeted by very straight faced, baby consoling assistant who obviously didn’t know the depth of exhaustion broken nights can bring. She claimed her son and red faced returned home. Too mortified to go there much any more.

You used to buy the sugar in blue bags didn’t you? And the butter in big chopped off bits from a barrel which left the butter in a barrel shape.  We all knew the divi number. My mams being 26868 Bob knew half a dozen old byker grannies divi numbers due to going messages. Probably in the hopes of a 2p tip. Lol. He always was a good shopper.   I remember mam used to go yearly to join an enormous crush at the Co-op building next to St Andrews church, to get her divi? It was a way of saving up really and women seemed to get much more than the pittance Morrisons and these likes give you nowadays.

All I will say is the staff were friendly and attentive unlike today’s where they finish their chat about the night out with their fellow assistants, no matter how long the queue waiting to be served and there appears to be a really poor set up in my local Co-op, so bad that I never go there.

My mam was a hard woman but she never made me do shopping other than out of necessity nor chores around the home, saying she was used as a slave and wouldn’t make me be one, though mind, I had to do my own washing by the time I was 14.   Mam couldn’t cook so I don’t think she was used as a slave that much. Dad who was loyal to a fault would only  raise an eyebrow my way when she did the “poor me” thing.
She was the last of 11 children and always said “I wasn’t wanted”… well Aye! Not a lot of folk are thrilled with child no.11 I imagine. Perhaps she was requested to help her mum out a bit.
I wish I could think of something re Co-op, sadly, nothing.  I think mam only went if stuck for food, considering the local greengrocers cheaper and better.  No unnecessary plastic wrapping though, everything loose into your net bag which stretched to hold everything.  I often wonder why they have not come back into fashion because they were light and held a copious amount. I mean it could be work for foreign nations making net bags couldn’t it and they can be scrunched into your pocket and take less room that the hession affairs we now use or the nylon ones. The nylon ones fold small but don’t stretch to hold anything like the net bags.   I remember you got a little bus ticket affair divi ticket. No idea whether these were to be saved to prove your dividend, have you? Can you remember YOUR mams divi no?























 Our Next Meeting will be on May 8 At the Into Newcastle Cafe at 10:30



Monday, 11 March 2019

Meeting Notes February 2019


Another meeting to discuss our local heritage, I am afraid Peter was left with our lovely female historians all to himself as John and I could not make it this month. Irene has been active with her family history which we saw a bit of in December, she still has plenty to add to the group and we are looking forward to her next talk in March.


This month I thought I would include an extract of Scotswood and Benwell from the 1858 Directory which gives you a little bit of history and also some social information. I would encourage you to look into these Directories as they give you a good insight into the social economic aspects of our local history. You can find them on the top floor of Newcastle City Library. It would be interesting if some one could fill in the details of the chapels of the Methodists of the New Connection.


Post Office Directory of Northumberland & Durham, 1858

 






 Its around this time that the Tyneside Flats appeared in Maple Street Elswick around 1854 and some believe that the flats were an invention of William Armstrong or his architects to house his brand new workers for his brand new factory on the Elswick shore. They consisted of two-storey terraces of flats with one family occupying upstairs and another downstairs. Characterised by two front doors close to each other giving access to the upstairs and ground floor flats and often leading straight onto the front street. They had back yards often with an outside toilet and a small coal receptacle. They had eighteen feet wide rooms which were nine feet high.












 

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Into Newcastle cafe, Wednesday March 13, 10:30





















Saturday, 9 February 2019

Meeting Notes January 2019







One of the things we looked at was a bit of fun and entertainment using old photos of ourselves to guess who is who and also to do a review of the History that took place on our birthdays.


I was born in 1953 and an interesting quote from British History For Dummies for the time was:

You may have won the war, but you can not have any sweets

Fortunately for me on 5 February just before my birthday sweet rationing was taken off and sugar was eventually taken off rationing in September 1953. Meat, the last item to remain rationed, became freely available again in July 1954.

By Rathfelder - Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=76432091



Churchill became prime minister in 1951 but was too old and ill being replaced by an ambitious Anthony Eden who turned out to do very little. Lord Harold Macmillan took over in 1957 to the upbeat tune of 'You have never had it so good'


By BiblioArchives / LibraryArchives - https://www.flickr.com/photos/28853433@N02/19086236948/, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=41991931

Britain's desire to be come a Nuclear Power saw the  testing of  nuclear weapons between 1952 and 1963 with the agreement and support of Australia at three sites in Australia in the Monte Bello islands. An unknown number of  British Australian servicemen and native Aborigines died as a result of radiation poising and contamination.

By U.S. Department of Defense - U.S. Department of Defense, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=92616


On the 27 July 1953 the Korean war came to an end with a cease-fire armistice. It started  25 June 1950 with around 100,000 North Korean soldiers poured across the 38th parallel into South Korea with. President Harry S Truman authorising the US Military to engage North Korea under the command of General Douglas MacArthur. It would be a proxy war fought between the the two superpowers - the Soviet Union and the United States.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Korean_War_Montage_2.png


National Service continued and the call up continued until 1960 because of problems with our failing Empire which plagued the government. Some of the problems were giving up India, Partitioning and the problems with Pakistan. There was also trouble  brewing in Kenya where the Kenya nationalist guerrillas called the Mau Mau killed fellow Africans in 1953 massacring ninety seven Africans in the village of Lari this gradually lost the support of ordinary Keyans. Followed by the Suez Canal fiasco the failing empire kept our 'Young Men busy'. Eight years down the road from Berlin disenfranchised, disillusioned and marginalised in threadbare demob suits; they provide plenty of bleak fuel for playwright and film makers such as John Osborne 'Look back in anger (1956),' .The Entertainer (play 1959, film 1963).

By Source (WP:NFCC#4), Fair use, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?curid=55925744


Things were not all that bleak with the nations spirits being uplifted with the Coronation, a new young Queen Elisabeth,  displayed on the even newer TV sets that everyone rushed out to buy inviting neighbours to watch the occasion.

By Cecil Beaton - http://data2.archives.ca/e/e092/e002282631.jpgThis image is available from Library and Archives Canada under the reproduction reference number DAPDCAP82719 and under the MIKAN ID number 3242153


The time line for conquering Everest finally came to an end May 29 1953 when news reached London that Hilary and Tenzing of the British Everest Expedition had conquered Everest. it had been a long journey from 1922 when the first attempt had been made and failed however there was a first for the  British expedition who became the first humans to climb above 8,000m (26,240ft)

Jamling Tenzing Norgay [CC BY-SA 3.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0)], via Wikimedia Commons




Shelagh came up with some interesting facts for her birthday in March 1953

  • The US president was Dwight D. Eisenhower
  • In the UK She Wears Red Feathers by Guy Michell was in the top 5 hits
  • Edmund Hillary and Sherpa Tenzing Norgay reached the summit of Mount Everest on May 29 1953 
  • June 2 1953 Coronation of Elizabeth II


Moira had quite a comprehensive list of events that happened during the month of May 1946 when she was born:

  • Ist May - At least 800 indigenous Australian pastoral workers walk off the job in Pilbara Western Australia for human rights recognition and payment of fair wages and working conditions. The strike did not end until August 1949. It is one of the longest industrial strikes in Australia.
  • 2nd May- Six inmates unsuccessfully tried to escape from Alcatraz Prison, leading to a riot, later recalled as the so called 'Battle of Alcatraz'.
  • 3rd May
  • 4th May- First class cricket returns after being suspended during world War II.
  • 6th May- Native American veterans of World War II were denied the vote in the 1946 elections. They challenged this and in 1948 for the first time the residents of New Mexico's Indian reservations were allowed to vote.
  • 20th May- House of Commons votes to nationalise coal mines.
  • 23rd May- Terence Rattigans drama The Windsor Boy premiers in London.
  • 31st May-London Heathrow Airport opened fully for civilian use. 

Maureen came up with some interesting Football facts:

29th June 1950 USA beat England 1-0 in the Fifa World Cup. England had a reputation of being King of Football. Past record:-23 wins 4 losses 3 ties. The odds for England were 3:1 for USA 500:1. There were no subs allowed in those days. Team England: Captain Billy Wright among them Alf Ramsey, Tom Finney, Stanley Mathews-resting on the benches. USA - Amateurs- postmen, mill worker, Funeral Director.


Irene had some interesting dates for 1949:

  • September 16th 1949-Lone Ranger premiered on A.B.C T.V in U.S.A Clayton Moore was the Lone Ranger.
  • September 19th- British government de-valued the pound by 30%, chancellor Sir Stafford Cripp said it was a necessary move to bring in more foreign dollars in exchange for British exports.
  • September 20th- Nineteen countries followed Britain and de-valued their currencies.
  • September 26th-Moscow radio broadcast a statement saying that for the first time USSR had an atomic weapon.
  • September 28th- Mau Zedong was elected chairman of the new Central Government of the Peoples Republic of China. The flag of the Peoples Republic of China was adopted.
  • September 30th- The Berlin airlift was terminated after 277,264 flights had delivered 2.3 million tons of supplies since June 1948.

 Val had an extensive collection of dates and events and showed us a copy of the Evening Chronicle for her Birthday, here are just a few from her birth day November 1941.

  • November 2nd- SS Brynmill cargo ship, Blth to London was sunk By German aircraft off East Dungoen Buoy
  • November 3rd-SS Marie Dawn on a voyage from Middlesbrough to London, was bombed by German aircraft and sank in the Humber
  • November 3rd -Sedgefield Co. Durham two Heavy Explosive bombs fell in field at Mordon Moor Farm no casualties. Bombs dropped in Middlesbrough area some damage to houses and shops at South Bank.
  • November 4th-Yorkshire Unexploded Bomb in blacksmiths's shop of the Recar Iron Works necessitated some delay in production.
  • November 7/8- Northumberland, Sunderland and Durham all report High explosive bombs bieng dropped causing seven killed and fifteen seriously wounded at British Ropes Sunderland, A  male, two females, two boys killed and four people injured at Hordon. For the first time since the war began, mixed teams of men and women manned anti-aircraft batteries this night.
  • November 8/9-Five people missing presumed dead two die in hospital and twenty were injured in a high explosive bomb drop at Alnmouth
  •  November 9th-The auxiliary patrol vessel Lettie was sunk of St Abbs Head, cause unknown.








Our next meeting will be on Wedmesday 13th February at 10:30 at our usual venu INTU Newcastle University cafe, oppsiste the Haymarket Bus Station